This is why there are 2 versions of Israel - one with 100 entries and another with 40 entries:
I originally started with a format of 100 entries per country and 2 examples per entry.
After I got feedback, I refined the format to only list 40 entries because a commenter said 100 was too many and included duplicated, similar rhetorical techniques. I also found many of the example links were broken, so I created the shorter 40-entry list and let the original 100-entry versions stand.
1) Have you seen the other countries in the site's rhetoric tag?
I originally started using a format containing 100 questions and featuring 2 examples, but I got complaints that 100 was too many entries and the examples featured broken links and bad sources, so I made a new version with only 40 entries and eliminated the faulty examples.
There is a layering of toxicity, as many actions are preceded by by others which are in turn preceded by others. I'll also add that trauma and psychology play important roles.
The subjectivity of "toxicity" is noted by ChatGTP on the Palestinian page:
Some rhetorical techniques used in Palestinian discourse that critics might consider “toxic” often involve framing, language, or strategies that aim to justify, criticize, or challenge Israeli actions and policies. While these techniques are seen by some as strategic and essential for their cause, they may be considered manipulative or misleading by others. Below are some common rhetorical strategies that might be deemed toxic by critics:
Yes, I used ChatGTP to do an analysis of Palestinian rhetoric, as well as American, Honduran, and Canadian rhetoric. Next up: British & French Rhetoric. Do you have other countries I should prioritize querying?
Given that the conflict in Gaza is still ongoing and supporters of both sides are engaging in linguistic gymnastics to promote their positions would it be possible to release both studies simultaneously?
That way we could make easy direct comparisons and avoid either side being able to say your research, seen in isolation, supports their view that the other side is promoting fallacious information by the way they describe things - whereas they promote the truth?
Yes, the Palestinian analysis was already released (slightly after the American, and before the Israeli Analysis). Note: ChatGTP's analysis is that "some" might consider "toxic". It is not making an objective analysis if the critics are correct.
Why did your Palestinian output include examples for each, while the one for Israeli toxicity did not?
I note that the Palestinian output is ahistorical and detached from legal context. Not sure how accurate it can be. The Israelis have no legal claim to the post-1967 occupation, so the same does not apply in their case.
The Zionist are ONE THOUSAND TIMES smarter than the Nazis were.
The Nazis just genocided Jews for no excuse.
The brilliant Zionists genocide us Palestinians only AFTER they make false facts to label us ‘terrorists’, and ‘threats to the Jewish state.’
They manufactured our threat. They killed and tortured us until we hit back, and then labelled us ‘terrorists.’ They kill us and steal our land and say it’s theirs, and when we want it back they label us ‘threats to the state.’
If the Nazis had been that smart they would have won.
Regarding the “boots on the ground” comment from a previous poster…
I’m a boot in Boulder CO. We’re being submerged in about 80% of these right now. Reference the antisemitism-washing and weaponization exhibited by our local Boulder Reporting Lab or the fly-ins from the Times of Israel.
Did y’all get together for the “Linguistic Gymnastics” term or is that just a group think thing? The rage queens regarding the distinction regarding any distinction between anti-Zionism and antisemitism hit that one pretty hard. Very telling.
I figured you didn't write this cause it wasn't in crayon.
If you change Israel to that made up Palestine you probably get the same results AI lies it follows trends and other human input and gathers it up then pukes it out all ready for some twatwaffle who's too fkn lazy to do their own research to publish.
Hay teach I did my homework while I played candy crush ain't I amazing?
Do some boots on the ground research.
Oh wait that takes time and effort.. lazy fucking assklowns
This is why there are 2 versions of Israel - one with 100 entries and another with 40 entries:
I originally started with a format of 100 entries per country and 2 examples per entry.
After I got feedback, I refined the format to only list 40 entries because a commenter said 100 was too many and included duplicated, similar rhetorical techniques. I also found many of the example links were broken, so I created the shorter 40-entry list and let the original 100-entry versions stand.
1) Have you seen the other countries in the site's rhetoric tag?
https://writing.openpolitics.com/t/rhetoric
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2) Do you have suggestions on what countries I should analyze next?
- The ones with an x have already been done
- The other countries I'm thinking of doing.
x US
x Palestine
x Israel
x Honduras
x Britain
x France
x Germany
x Russia
China
India
Poland
Ukraine
Hungary
Saudi Arabia
Turkey
Iran
Japan
Indonesia
South Korea
North Korea
Australia
Venezuela
Columbia
Brazil
Argentina
El Salvidor
Mexico
Hati
I've used AI to analyzes the following rhetoric
Russian,
German,
French,
British
Canadian,
Honduran,
Israeli,
Palestinian, and
American
Note: AI doesn't attempt to objectively determine if the rhetoric is "toxic", rather it surfaces rhetoric that "some" consider it to be "toxic."
Do you have an opinion on the Palestinian, German, and Russian posts?
https://writing.openpolitics.com/t/rhetoric
I originally started using a format containing 100 questions and featuring 2 examples, but I got complaints that 100 was too many entries and the examples featured broken links and bad sources, so I made a new version with only 40 entries and eliminated the faulty examples.
Here is the comparable 100-entry Israeli version:
https://writing.openpolitics.com/p/top-100-toxic-israeli-pr-techniques
There is a layering of toxicity, as many actions are preceded by by others which are in turn preceded by others. I'll also add that trauma and psychology play important roles.
The subjectivity of "toxicity" is noted by ChatGTP on the Palestinian page:
https://writing.openpolitics.com/p/top-100-toxic-palestinian-rhetorical-techniques
Some rhetorical techniques used in Palestinian discourse that critics might consider “toxic” often involve framing, language, or strategies that aim to justify, criticize, or challenge Israeli actions and policies. While these techniques are seen by some as strategic and essential for their cause, they may be considered manipulative or misleading by others. Below are some common rhetorical strategies that might be deemed toxic by critics:
I re-queried the prompt to use a neutral / open minded standpoint:
https://chatgpt.com/c/68423d6e-ee10-8009-b7c0-58799f0b7155
Are you going to do a comparable study on the techniques used by pro Palestine supporters?
Yes, I used ChatGTP to do an analysis of Palestinian rhetoric, as well as American, Honduran, and Canadian rhetoric. Next up: British & French Rhetoric. Do you have other countries I should prioritize querying?
https://writing.openpolitics.com/t/rhetoric
Tim, Thank you for your reply.
Given that the conflict in Gaza is still ongoing and supporters of both sides are engaging in linguistic gymnastics to promote their positions would it be possible to release both studies simultaneously?
That way we could make easy direct comparisons and avoid either side being able to say your research, seen in isolation, supports their view that the other side is promoting fallacious information by the way they describe things - whereas they promote the truth?
Yes, the Palestinian analysis was already released (slightly after the American, and before the Israeli Analysis). Note: ChatGTP's analysis is that "some" might consider "toxic". It is not making an objective analysis if the critics are correct.
https://writing.openpolitics.com/p/top-100-toxic-palestinian-rhetorical-techniques
Why did your Palestinian output include examples for each, while the one for Israeli toxicity did not?
I note that the Palestinian output is ahistorical and detached from legal context. Not sure how accurate it can be. The Israelis have no legal claim to the post-1967 occupation, so the same does not apply in their case.
Tim.
Thanks for your reply and sharing the link.
👍
Based on your feedback, I added the Palestinian Flag link: the 4th image, above the "Monster Mash" graphic.
The Zionist are ONE THOUSAND TIMES smarter than the Nazis were.
The Nazis just genocided Jews for no excuse.
The brilliant Zionists genocide us Palestinians only AFTER they make false facts to label us ‘terrorists’, and ‘threats to the Jewish state.’
They manufactured our threat. They killed and tortured us until we hit back, and then labelled us ‘terrorists.’ They kill us and steal our land and say it’s theirs, and when we want it back they label us ‘threats to the state.’
If the Nazis had been that smart they would have won.
trying to control the narrative will not shield israel from the bad karma that their government is heaping upon their heads
This is brilliant and will keep for reference.
That's a lot of words to say "I don't like the Jews". Hate combined with cowardice. Truly the mud-eating peasant..
Genesis 12:3 "And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee"
Regarding the “boots on the ground” comment from a previous poster…
I’m a boot in Boulder CO. We’re being submerged in about 80% of these right now. Reference the antisemitism-washing and weaponization exhibited by our local Boulder Reporting Lab or the fly-ins from the Times of Israel.
Did y’all get together for the “Linguistic Gymnastics” term or is that just a group think thing? The rage queens regarding the distinction regarding any distinction between anti-Zionism and antisemitism hit that one pretty hard. Very telling.
Just one example from ToI…
https://www.timesofisrael.com/boulders-shocked-and-traumatized-jewish-community-takes-stock-of-losses-and-strengths/
“Jewish bodies”: NO BURNING!
Other bodies: Burning negotiable 😑
See also:
* Radical feminism
* Trans rights activism
* Cluster B personality disorders
A little curious Israel has two entries. Representin’!
Fine article. To reread and to save…. Excellent resume.
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I figured you didn't write this cause it wasn't in crayon.
If you change Israel to that made up Palestine you probably get the same results AI lies it follows trends and other human input and gathers it up then pukes it out all ready for some twatwaffle who's too fkn lazy to do their own research to publish.
Hay teach I did my homework while I played candy crush ain't I amazing?
Do some boots on the ground research.
Oh wait that takes time and effort.. lazy fucking assklowns