"You can kill a Palestinian anywhere in Palestine and the police won’t open a file."
Son of an Israeli "founding father" extends his father's desired path of reform
“You can kill a Palestinian anywhere in Palestine and the police won’t open a file.”1
- Miko Paled
Miko Paled (Wikipedia)
Born in Jerusalem in 1961, Peled grew up in Motza Illit to a prominent Zionist family.
Peled’s grandfather, Avraham Katznelson, after whom he was named, signed Israel’s Declaration of Independence.[2][3] Peled’s father, Mattityahu Peled, who fought in the 1948 Arab–Israeli War and served as a general in the Six-Day War of 1967, became an advocate for an Israeli dialogue with the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) after the Israeli cabinet ignored his investigation of a 1967 alleged Israeli war crime.[4] His brother is the political scientist Yoav Peled.
AI Research (Gemini)
Q: What are the consequences for an Israeli who kills a Palestinian in the West Bank? What will the police response be?
… 3. Statistical Realities and Challenges
Despite the legal framework, human rights organizations and international bodies frequently point to a significant “accountability gap” regarding Israeli violence against Palestinians.
Low Indictment Rates: According to data from the Israeli NGO Yesh Din, which tracks such cases, a vast majority of investigations into ideologically motivated crimes by Israelis against Palestinians are closed without an indictment. Between 2005 and 2024, approximately 94% of cases ended without an indictment, often cited due to “perpetrator unknown” or “insufficient evidence.”
Conviction Rates: Only about 3% of investigations into settler violence lead to a conviction. When convictions do occur, they are sometimes for lesser offenses rather than the original capital charge.
Evidence Collection: Challenges often arise because Palestinian witnesses may be hesitant to file complaints with Israeli police, or police may face difficulties accessing certain areas to collect forensic evidence promptly.
Book
The General’s Son: Journey of an Israeli in Palestine, Second Edition, 04/01/2016 • 10/03/2022. (AI Summary)
Questions
Were you aware that Palestinians in the West Bank are governed by a different legal system than the Israeli settlers that live among them, equivalent to martial law?
Did you know that Palestinians in the West Bank can be detained without charge, as the Palestinians in the West Bank are effectively governed by Martial law?
Transcript:
18:04 Do you mind if you explain that? Maybe it's a good time now because I'm very curious. 18:08 Well, when you have when you have different So, okay. 18:13 Israeli Jews can live anywhere they want in that country and they are governed and protected by civil laws, civil kind 18:21 of western democratic laws. Palestinians do not enjoy any protection under the law. You can kill a Palestinian anywhere 18:29 throughout the entire country, whether you call it Israel or Palestine, and there will be no consequences. You can kill a Palestinian anywhere, the police 18:37 won't even start open a file, won't even come to investigate. Now, the way Palestinians are governed 18:44 within this apartheid system, like I said, Jews have the same laws. They enjoy the same protections. Palestinians, 18:52 citizens of Israel, there about two million of those. They live under a set of laws that is specific to them and 19:00 they're governed by particular bureaucracies that manage their life and 19:07 kind of this this this bureaucracy is um how should I say this kind of over over uh covered with Israeli intelligence, 19:17 Israeli secret police, the Shabbach. So anything Palestinians want to do, they want to go become a teacher, get a mortgage, whatever. Not that they can get a mortgage, but [snorts] 19:26 whatever they want to do, they have to go through the uh Shabbach, the secret police. Now, the Palestinians in 19:33 Jerusalem have a different status. The Palestinians in Jerusalem, even families that have been there, you know, in Jerusalem, some of the Palestinian families in Jerusalem go back 800 years, 19:44 they uh live under a different status. 19:47 They don't have citizenship. Um, now I was born and raised in Jerusalem. I've been gone for many years, I can go back tomorrow, pick up my life, buy a house 19:56 or if I have property, I can access my property. Palestinian citizen, the Palestinian residents of Jerusalem, if they leave or if they have a foreign 20:05 passport, they lose their their their uh status, they lose their right to their property and they're basically become stateless. So, they can't come back. 20:16 that. So, so if Palestinians, Palestinians, if they leave where exactly if they leave the country, if they go overseas for a few years, 20:24 the state of Israel, huh? If they leave the state of Israel, 20:28 if they leave the country, yeah, if they leave Jerusalem, I mean, they're not citizens of the state of Israel. They are alien residents even though they were there long before. 20:37 Sorry. Are you talking about Sorry, I might have gotten confused. I apologize. 20:40 You're talking about Palestinians in just in in what is considered the West Bank. In Jerusalem, 20:47 okay, in Tel Aviv, it doesn't apply. Tel Aviv, they can travel and come back. There are no Palestinians in Tel Aviv. 20:52 There are Palestinian neighborhoods in Yafa, which is now a part of Tel Aviv that are still there. Tel Aviv is built on the But I mean Palestinians, I mean Arab Israelis. I mean Arab Israelis. 21:03 Well, yeah. So, hold on. So, the Palestinian citizens of Israel, that's one category. That's what I'm talking they can travel they can travel and come 21:11 back from you the ones that they have an Israeli passport. Okay. Okay. 21:14 The Palestinians who reside in Jerusalem do not have that. 21:19 They have a different uh status and if they leave or if they if they obtain a second passport which many many people 21:27 do um they cannot return their land is taken. You know, in some cases, 21:32 Palestinians in in Jerusalem are always have to make sure there's somebody in the home because if there's the home is 21:39 empty, the apartment is empty, it will be taken by settlers and they're gone. 21:43 They can't come back. So, this is the reality. East or West, East or West Jerusalem? 21:47 There are no Palestinians in West Jerusalem. West Jerusalem, the ethnic cleansing was absolute. No Palestinians were allowed to remain in West Jerusalem. Palestinians only exist in 21:56 East Jerusalem. In 1948, West Jerusalem was taken and the ethnic cleansing was 100%. No Palestinians were left in West Jerusalem. 22:06 When you say Palestinians, Jerusalem, 22:08 when you say Palestinians, you mean including Arab Israelis? There's no such thing as Arab Israelis. 22:13 There are Palestinian citizens of Israel. Arab. 22:16 Yeah, that's what I meant. So, you're saying there's no Palestinian Sorry. 22:19 There's no Palestinian citizens of Israel in West Jerusalem. 22:22 No. eth Jerusalem was the ethnic cleansing of Jerusalem was 100% no Palestinians were left. Many of the 22:30 Palestinians who are still what in what is called Israel. Now is Israeli Arabs is a derogatory term. 22:38 Yeah, I didn't mean it that way. So I apologize. 22:40 Yeah, no Palestinian very few if any Palestinians would would use that term to describe themselves but they are citizens. My last my last guest used the 22:48 term so that's why I started using um it's very often uh misunderstood but the so in 1948 22:57 you know hundreds of towns and villages were were destroyed and taken and and and Israeli settlements were built in their place. Jerusalem had Palestinians. 23:07 It was a Palestinian city. [snorts] And then in 1948 when during the ethnic cleansing campaign and so on and when the state of Israel this regime was 23:15 established the ethnic cleansing of Jerusalem was absolute. Not a single Palestinian was allowed to remain in 23:22 West Jerusalem. And then the border cut Jerusalem in half. Half the West Jerusalem became not recognized 23:30 internationally but became the capital of the state of Israel and East Jerusalem remained in the in what's known as the West Bank. M after 1967, 23:38 the Palestinians of East Jerusalem were occupied just like everybody in the West Bank, but they were given a special 23:45 status, not citizens because Israel had had um uh completely annexed East 23:52 Jerusalem and and and a lot more than East Jerusalem. In other words, they expanded the boundaries. The Palestinians who they are constantly 24:00 trying to get rid of who reside in Jerusalem have a special status of an alien resident. So there are many 24:09 limitations and and there's a great concern if they leave you know go to school for three years go to college uh I don't know decide to start a business 24:17 and then maybe come back whatever the case may be they will lose their property and they will lose their status. Now, this won't happen. They have to stay. They have to stay. 24:27 Sorry. They have to stay. And in some cases, 24:29 and I'm not kidding you, there are areas throughout East Jerusalem where Palestinians do not dare leave their home empty for not even for a day 24:39 because of the settlers come in with soldiers and take their home. And that happens every single day because there's a process that the 24:47 Zionist there's a term that the Zionist has created called a judization of. So there's a Judaization of Jerusalem, 24:55 there's a Judaization of the Galilee, 24:57 there's a Judaization of, you know, and depending on the region. So Judaization or development 25:05 are code words for kicking out the Palestinians and then developing their land, developing their homes for Jews only. Now, like I said, the bureaucracy, 25:16 the the only difference between Palestinians in the West Bank, the Palestinian citizens of Israel, 25:22 Palestinians in Jerusalem, Palestinians in the Gaza concentration camp, the only differences between them are that they are governed by a different bureaucracy. 25:31 And that bureaucracy in some places a little more lenient, in some places obviously like the Gaza concentration camp, it's far more extreme. And like 25:39 you said that we saw we saw a genocide We're still seeing a genocide in in the Gaza concentration camp, but that is 25:48 just a part of the picture. Palestinian citizens of Israel have their homes demolished. They're thrown in jail for 25:55 for standing up. They don't dare leave their towns now or or or or even those who go to work among Israelis, they're scared. And it's always been that way. 26:06 and the privilege to become I don't know a bank manager or the privilege to go to medical school or the privilege to be a 26:14 teacher or principal in a school you have to go through screening by the Israeli secret police by the Shabbach 26:22 there every aspect of their life is governed by the Shabbach so you've got all these different bureaucracies that 26:30 make this apartheid work and there is not a single law in the Israeli law books that protects 26:38 Palestinians only Israelis. Then it comes to sentencing the death penalty law just now. I mean many many I mean 26:45 there's a disgusting law that is a disgusting law the the the one this is this is this is this is Zionism. 26:53 I mean look they committed genocide without the law. They committed massacres in 1948 without that law. I mean, they've been killing Palestinians one way or the other, you know, 27:05 massacring large numbers of Palestinians for the last eight decades through acts of what what I think should be considered terrorism. So the So when we 27:13 talk about the state of Israel, we're talking about a regime, a settler colonial regime that is racist, that is 27:21 that is very violent, that has brought instability to the entire region. Think of all the wars over the last 80 years. 27:29 Think of the millions of refugees. Think of the destruction. Think of the cyan war in Iran. This ridiculous absurd psychotic attack on Iran. All of these things were initiated by this regime. 27:41 Think of Lebanon. This is not the first time that they're engaged in in massacres of southern Lebanon. They've been wanting to take southern Lebanon 27:48 um since I was a child. You know, I mean, this is something that's been going on for a long time. So if that has legitimacy, if that has a right to exist in someone's opinion, 27:59 that's fine. But that's based on values. It's not based on politics. 28:02 No. So the solution the solution to a to a country that commits atrocities and almost every country in its history has committed atrocities at some stage. 28:10 Whether it's Turkey, whether it's China, whether it's Japan, whether it's Russia, 28:14 they've committed atrocities be replaced and the regime. But the Yeah, you replace the regime. 28:18 But I just don't think that the you remove it as a state is the solution. 28:22 But I just want to ask you a quick question. I'm still a more inquisitive question again. The Palestinian Israelis, the ones that live in Israel proper, you know what I mean by Israel proper? 28:31 1967. Yeah. 19. Yeah. So 1967 borders. 28:35 The Well, it's called the the Palestinian citizens of Israel and what you call Israel proper is is called Palestine of 1948. 28:43 That's what it's called. And they are the Palestinians of 1948. 28:47 Yeah. So it so do they have the same rights as Jewish Israelis? 28:52 Not at all. Not even remotely. Their lives are different. Everything from the the amount of water they receive. Israel 29:01 Israel controls all the the entire you know controls the water. There's an Israeli bureaucracy called or agency called Mikaroth and they control all the 29:09 water. Palestinians regardless of where they live but in general Palestinians throughout the entire country you want 29:17 to guess how many how much what percentage of the water they are allocated there's no way you will guess but you can try if you want 29:25 now consider Palestinians let me try hold on so population of Palestinians in Israel is about 30 how what percentage of the is proper 29:32 population is Palestinian 2 million but I'm talking about Palestinians throughout the entire country so there's two million so if we take out I want to take 30:00 out I want to take out Westbank guys out which 29:41 I I'm not and I'm not trying to be insensitive. out I want to take 29:41 I'm trying to because I understand how horrible it is there and that we like I fully agree. What I'm trying to understand is the situation of 29:49 Palestinians inside you know Tel Aviv. There are no Palestinians in Tel Aviv. 29:57 Palestinians don't live in Israeli towns. Palestinians either live if they live in what is known as mixed cities where you have two populations. They are 30:05 completely segregated. They live in communities without sidewalks, without roads, without electricity, and without access to water. 30:13 One to two% of Tel Aviv residents are Arab citizens. 30:16 There are no Tel Aviv. There are no maybe a couple, but there are no Palestinians in Tel Aviv. There is a small There are a couple of 30:24 neighborhoods in what used to be the city of Yafa, which preceded Tel Aviv, which was a major, you know, 30:30 Mediterranean city, Arab city way, you know, before 1948. 30:35 that there are a small community that still exists from what used to be that big city. But that's but they are 30:43 completely segregated. It's a completely segregated community. 30:46 Oh wow. They live in in three concentrated regions. The Galilea, the Gal the Galilee, 30:52 the Galile the uh city along the green line. Tanib, Tira, Kuraswan, Ker. Yeah. Um another one Jewish Arab cities Hifa. 31:00 Hifa. 31:02 Yeah. So, there are a couple of, like I said, there are a couple of cities that are called mixed cities. Hi-fi is one of them. 31:07 Can't believe there's even a word of mixed cities. 31:10 And Hi is one of them. Jerusalem is one of them where I grew up. And of course, 31:13 the segregation is absolute. They don't go to the same schools. They don't speak the same language. They don't have the same resources. Um, lid is a mixed city 31:22 in in the south in the entire southern part of Palestine, they have a couple of mixed cities, but the segregation is 31:30 absolute. They do not have the same life, the same standard of living. 31:34 So why? Sorry, just another I know it sounds like a naive question, but I'm sure a lot of people outside outside of this world don't understand this. An 31:41 Arab Israeli or Palestinian Israeli that wants to move to Tel Aviv, can't they just get the money and buy a house in Tel Aviv? I don't get what I'm saying. 31:48 Sell them a house. So the way the apartheid is structured, you have laws. They have the money. Yeah. Sorry. 31:54 No. So the way the the way the apartheid is structured, you have laws. 32:00 Then you have policies and then you have culture. 32:05 So I'll tell you a story. I mean I I I was with a friend in the city of Lid, 32:09 which is a supposedly mixed city. And in the city of Lid, they build massively to 32:16 encourage, you know, young Israeli Jews to come and live there. So they build these beautiful developments, beautiful apartments. a Palestinian from the city went to put his name down, you know, 32:28 wanting to buy an apartment, 32:31 and they said to him, "Look, uh, we're full. It's already gone. Everything's sold." 32:37 And Israeli friend of his went right after him and wanted to put his name and they said, "Uh, sure. You know, which 32:45 apartment do you want? One bedroom, two bedrooms, and so on." No. 32:48 And the guy said, "Wait a minute. My Palestinian friend was just there was just here and you said that it's all full that it's all been sold. And the 32:57 person said to him, and this is very typical, look, if we sell to Arabs, no one's going to buy. No one's going to 33:04 buy if we sell to Arabs, if we allow Arabs to live here. So, no, a Palestinian cannot buy nobody. 33:12 Can you buy houses? So, so hold on. If there's, 33:16 sorry if it sounds like 33:20 a stupid question, but if there's a I don't know if you can buy homes online, but if he goes online, clicks on buy of a house in 33:25 Tel Aviv, and puts his details. You're saying they'll say what? If it's a house that's on sale on the website, he clicks on buy, they'll say no because they'll 33:33 see his name. They'll see the name is a Palestinian. They can legally say no. 33:37 No, they don't have to. a stupid question 33:20 It's got nothing to do with No one's going to No one is going to go after an is Israeli uh landlord or Israeli homeowner that says 33:46 no to an Arab. No one's going to do do anything. Quite the opposite. And so once you see the name, you see that it's an Arab. We're it's finished. It's over. 33:56 Now, I'll tell you more. Let me listen to this. The entire southern part of of the country in Hebrew they call it the negative. It's called the in Arabic. 34:06 There are 300,000 Palestinians who live there. They used to be semi-nomatic, so they're farmers. 34:13 Today, 34:17 only Israeli Jews are allowed to engage in farming and agriculture in that region. Now, it's a desert, but it's a very fertile desert. So, agriculture 34:25 works very well. The Israeli settlements, cities, you know, farms and so on enjoy a very high standard of living. 34:33 the Palestinian of that region, the Palestinian bed, citizens of Israel, 34:41 they live in townships, and anybody who's heard about South Africa knows about townships. They [snorts] live in towns 34:48 uh that have no roads, no access to water, no access to electricity, no access to medical care. And these are 34:57 all citizens of the state of Israel. and they live across the street from these beautiful new Israeli settlements 35:04 that enjoy a very high standard of living. This is these are citizens of Israel. So being a Palestinian citizen of Israel 35:13 does not give you the right as the rights that I would have you know that I grew up with or that other Israelis enjoy. Completely different in terms of 35:22 funding, infrastructure, school opportunities, 35:26 water, access to water. And we never finished the conversation about the water. [snorts] Now, Palestinians overall 35:33 overall make about 7 and a half million out of a population of about I don't know 12 or 13 million. So, they're the 35:40 majority. Now, Israel controls the water everywhere in the West Bank, in Jerusalem, in Gaza, everywhere. Israel controls all the water. 35:50 They allocate 3% of the water to Palestinians. 35:55 Three. So, if you're driving along a major highway and there's a Palestinian town on one side and an Israeli town on 36:02 the other side of the street or the highway or depending, you're going to see kind of dusty, dirty, 36:09 um, unckempted towns, you know, no gardens, no grassy areas. 36:14 You're not going to find, uh, swimming pools or parks for children. You're not going to see any of that across the street. You're going to see all you're 36:22 going to see that everywhere. parks and grassy areas and and and you know football places for to play football and 36:30 so on. The difference is water and sometimes it is so effective that you'll have a Palestinian town 36:38 literally across a two-lane highway street from an Israeli town. The 36:45 Palestinians will get seven 10 hours of running water per week. Israelis get all 36:53 the water. I I never thought there was any problem with water or you never, you know, did shower or cook or or do the laundry. Palestinians have to figure out 37:00 what they're going to do with seven hours and when these seven hours will come and when the water will be available. 37:07 So I have another I have another naive question then. So if there's 20% of the population of Israel proper that is Palestinian Israeli, 37:16 can't they vote for politician that represent them? They can vote. So can't can't they have representation in parliament? Sorry, it sounds like a naive question, but No, no, no. It's a really good question. 37:27 They do vote, 37:29 but the way the Israeli parliament is structured, their vote doesn't matter. 37:36 So the Israeli Parliament, and this might be too many details, but I'll I'll go through it. The Israeli Parliament has 120 seats. 37:44 The most the most the Palestinians can get or people who represent the pal that Palestinian community can get is around 37:52 20. Let's say 30 if like the out of 160 out of 120. 120. 38:00 Now no Israeli leader will ever enter a coalition with a party that represents the 38:09 Palestinians, the Arabs. No legislation would pass 38:16 based on a coordination with the Arab parties. It would be unthinkable. 38:23 And now Israeli elections are coming up and both and all the different parties are accusing the others that they are 38:30 traitors because they will sit with the Arab parties. 38:35 So it the way it's structured it's like it's like a it's like a sanit in Europe in in Europe you can have a a political party that gets a lot of votes 38:44 but all the others kind of coales together to form a coalition that makes the other one that had a big portion of the votes just completely useless. 38:51 I mean there was a time where the the what's called what's known as the Arab parties had 15 or 16 seats. They were the third largest block in parliament. 39:03 everything, any coalition, any legislation counts them out and then they do the count on whether or not it's going to 39:11 pass. Nobody will ever and so and because the entire country is a single uh voting district, you know, their their influence is diminished. I mean, 39:21 they have no influence. So, they and they can't sit in any of the important committees. They can't sit in security or or foreign affairs or any of that sort of thing. 39:30 So, If if I'm speaking as someone who who I'm not saying an extreme Zionist who's 39:37 religiously fundamentalist or um look at look at Palestinian as you know looks at themselves as superior or supreme race 39:45 or superior to Palestinians not those brainwashed idiots. If we look at someone that's pragmatic like like like yourself but on the opposite side that 39:54 wants to justify this what is the argument they make? Someone pragmatic and logical. If I tell them why is that happen? someone that looks at 40:01 Palestinians as equals. Do that is there a good explan not a good explanation. What would be their explanation? 40:09 [snorts] 40:10 Well, there's a whole uh there's a whole box full of explanations depending on what works. So, one is the Holocaust, 40:18 two is an Arab terrorism, three is October 7th. 40:22 Oh, so they don't so they don't deny they don't sorry they don't deny that um Israel is an apath apathide state. They just justify it. 40:31 Is there some people that didn't Is there anyone that says no, we're starting apathide state or it's a given? 40:34 No, they say it's not a parttheide. They say that we're a democracy, but we're a Jewish democracy. 40:42 And then if you say yes, but what about this and what about this and what about this? Then they'll bring out the different excuses to justify whatever it 40:50 is that you're asking about. And you know, they'll they'll just they'll just, you know, 40:54 but what would be the justification, for example, of two things? not having only 3% of the water going to Palestinians or Palestinians not being able Palestinian 41:02 Israelis not being able to buy land anywhere. What would be like the the most reasonable reasonable explanation for these two if I ask a reasonable person? 41:11 The land belongs to the Jews. The water belongs to the Jews. Palestinians if they don't like they can leave. Yes. 41:18 Leave where? Who cares? 41:24 Really? That's what I was taught in school. This is what I was taught in school. This is how I was educated. This is how Israelis are educated from the very beginning. It's 41:32 our land. It's our rights. It's our water. If they want to stay, fine. But they're going to have to follow our lead. And that they're going to have to 41:40 accept that it's a Jewish state for Jewish people. And if we have to take their land, if we have to take the water, well, that's just the way it is. 41:49 That's where the conversation ends. And then they'll bring up the Holocaust or the Hamas orbah or whoever it is the hell they want to bring up as an excuse. 41:57 But none of these excuses matter. 41:59 And it's really about, you know, 100 million years ago. Like you said earlier, Palestine has been called Palestine 42:07 going back to the days of the pharaohs in all the document documents from all these different empires, the Greeks and on and on and on. You know, until 1948, 42:18 Europeans and everybody else did business with Palestine. But this is Palestine. 42:22 I I think this does this shouldn't this doesn't really matter. Whoever makes the argument, I think these are No, I'll tell you why it doesn't matter. It shouldn't matter. These are Palestinian 42:31 people. They're people like others. They deserve to the ones in Israel deserve my position deserve the exact same rights as Jewish Israelis, otherwise it's an 42:39 apathide state. And the ones in the Palestinian land deserve their own land as Palestine with freedom of navigation, etc. 42:46 um and all the settlements to be out of Palestinian land. Now, your argument is putting it making it your argument is making it all in one land. Well, if it is one state, then it's one state equal for all. That is a reasonable position. 42:58 That is the position of most nations around the world. 43:00 Yes. And that's what Israelis are scared. 43:03 You know what's you know what's ironic is that's their biggest concern. So, they created a single state with little 43:10 banistans, little ghettos for Palestinians. 43:14 They they only count Palestinians who are the citizens of Israel. They don't count the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza when they do their census. 43:23 They count Israeli Jews everywhere regardless of where they live. But they only go count the Palestinian citizens of Israel. So it seems like there is a 43:32 Jewish state with a small a Jewish democracy with a small Arab minority or like you said 20%. The reality is this 43:40 this regime, this state of Israel governs clo and a half million Palestinians. 43:47 There are about six or six and a half million Israeli Jews. So they're governing a majority in a reality that could not be more 43:56 racist and more violent and more oppressive. Yes. 44:01 That's the reality. And that's why dismantling this regime, dismantling the Zionist regime and allowing for a one 44:09 person, one vote elections and a real democracy to take its place is the only other option. 44:19 Slicing and splicing is assumes that I get I get where you're coming from that will agree it's not going to happen. I'd love Miko I'd love 44:27 um you know obviously in a quieter time I'd love to do a deeper dive into this and I'm going to message my team if you're open for it of course to have you do a debate like a panel me you and 44:36 someone else that that disagrees with you to have a discussion because I someone reasonable on the other side because I'm really curious to see how they think and how they would justify 44:44 the things that you've talked about because it's just it's just wrong. Um but Miko pleasure to meet you man I I really appreciate you coming on. 44:52 You too. All right take care. 44:54 Thank you my friend. Um, all right everyone. I I I hope you enjoyed the conversation with me. I I want to do more conversations like this. We're going to go back to wartime discussions. 45:02 We're gonna have u Major General Randy Manor, a regular on the show to talk about the strikes on the UAE that happened again today. I was actually doing a live interview when it happened. 45:09 I only found out about it afterwards um to discuss that and the new reality of the straight home. 45:13 So, I'll see you guys in five minutes. Bye.
FOOTNOTES:
Gemini reports 94% of cases didn’t lead to an indictment and 3% of investigations led to a conviction.

